Thursday, January 1, 2015

               Many people have the false idea that child-adult sexual relationships cause harm to the children. This is a completely false perception used to justify the feeling of disgust most people have towards the sexual attraction to a child. This justification comes from the fact that child abuse and the rape of a child do cause emotional and physical harm, as with any kind of rape or abuse. However, child abuse is not at all associated with pedophilia. Most child abusers are not pedophiles and pedophiles are equally as likely to rape a child as a heterosexual man is to rape a woman. Child-adult consensual sexual relationships cause no harm to the child, it only causes pleasure and happiness for both parties. The harm only happens when the adult is discovered and the happy couple is separated forever. The adult is sent to prison while the child is humiliated by police, parents, and therapists, who make the child believed that he was somehow harmed by the loving relationship when, in fact, most likely he wasn’t.

               “Child sexual abuse” is said to not only be physical sex between an adult and a child, but to also include exhibitionism and/or touching the child in a sexual way. Most of you can probably agree that exhibitionism can’t possibly cause any harm to a child. Some children are raised in nudist families and go to nudist resorts and beaches where they see naked people all the time, this is already proven to cause no harm. Sexually touching a child causes no harm either. Do you remember when you were a child and you went to get a physical checkup at the pediatrics? Do you remember the nurse sticking her finger in your vagina or pulling your foreskin back and touching your testicles? Do you remember having to bend down while she put her fingers in your butt hole? Were you traumatized by this? Did this cause you long term harm? If anyone else were found doing these acts, they would be charged with sexual abuse. Anal or vaginal sex is what most people would agree causes physical and emotional harm to a child. Before I explain, let me get one point clear. Pedophiles are gentle towards the child and will go slow and easy, making sure the child is enjoying it every step of the way. They know it’s the child’s first time. Sex with a child is no worse than circumcision, where children are forcefully held down while they scream and struggle as their foreskin is being cut off. Sex with a child involves no struggling or screaming. If circumcision doesn’t emotionally or physically harm a child, then neither does sex with a child. Some people would argue that the difference between these three cases (nudism, touching, and sex/circumcision) is the sexual context in which they occur. If children are truly as innocent as people believe them to be, then the children would not know the difference between sexual context and no sexual context, therefore, sexual context is irrelevant.

               The law prohibits children from being able to give consent to sex. Most people claim that this law was put in place because “children don’t know what they are consenting to.” This is very true, but just because they don’t know what they are consenting to doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to do it. There is a first time for everything. Would you prohibit children from fishing because they don’t know how to fish? Or prohibit children from playing soccer because they don’t know how to play soccer? That’s what learning is for. Sexual activities are quite easy to learn. Pedophiles will obviously not ask the child, “Would you like to have sex with me?” The child would have no idea what he is talking about. Instead, he teaches the child how to engage in sexual activities. Some people claim that children don’t have sexual urges. This is false, all children from as young as babies have sexual urges, most children just haven’t discovered them yet. Most children start to discover their sexual urges by the age of 12 or 13, sometimes earlier if they get help from an adult. Most teenagers engage in sexual activities with their peers. It would be much better if they were allowed to do the same thing with adults, who could properly teach them.

               Most of us can agree that teenagers are curious about sex and many of them have already had sex. In many countries it’s normal for teenagers to have sex, get married, and get pregnant. Children are not as innocent as people believe them to be. I recently met a 12 year old boy online who said that he currently engages in sexual activities with an adult friend. He said that he is the one who usually convinces the adult to do sexual things, not the other way around. He also told me that when he was six, a man made him suck his penis. The only harm he described from this was not being able to breathe when the man forced him to suck. I have also met many people online who engaged in sexual activities and had sex at ages younger than 12 with friends or siblings. None of these children were in any way harmed by this. If they weren’t harmed when engaging in sexual acts with other children, why would they be harmed when engaging in sexual acts with adults? There have been many cases on the news where teachers are arrested for having sex with their 12 to 14 year old students. The students, who are supposedly the victims always try to protect the teacher and always fail to mention any harm that was caused to the student. They make it seem like the student was a victim and that the teacher was somehow manipulating him, but you can clearly see that the student enjoyed it just as much as she did. In one case, the student secretly went back to see the teacher after she was released. Children are only “innocent” because we keep them that way. We refuse to talk to children about sex. Most adults refuse to expose their children to adult nudism or pornography. They think it’s somehow bad for them, partly because the child will be confused and won’t understand what’s going on. Looking at a very complicated math problem can have the same effect on someone who isn’t good at math.

The only trauma caused by a child-adult sexual relationship is when the adult is caught by the authorities. The child is repeatedly humiliated by parents, police, and therapists. The therapists don’t help the child, the therapists only make the child believe that he was harmed even though he wasn’t. The child is brainwashed into believing he was sexually abused, harmed, and that he did not enjoy it. The children grow up with these ideas and this is why they become traumatized. Not because of the actual relationship with the adult, but because of the dramatic end to the happy relationship. When those children are older, they are asked if they were harmed. Of course, by this point, they are convinced that they were harmed. I have chatted with many people who had sexual relationships as children with adults and they’ve admitted they enjoyed it and were not harmed by it. This is because the adult was never caught. When the police arrest someone for having sex with children, they automatically assume the child was harm even though that is not always the case.

Children are easy to manipulate, if you tell them something, they will most likely believe it. If a child falls and you ask him if he’s OK, he will most likely start crying. But if a child falls, and you pick him up and keep on walking he will most likely not cry. I was once taking a tour of a farm with a small group of people, among the group was a 6 year old boy. We were walking near an area which was surrounded with an electric fence. The 6 year old boy touched the fence and everyone in the group gasped while the mother asked the boy if he was OK. The boy began to cry. The owner of the farm then told us that there was no electricity running through the fence. The six year old boy was tricked into thinking that he was harmed the way therapists trick children into thinking they were harmed by sexual relationships with adults.

               There are several studies that conclude sexual activities with children cause long term harm. These studies have many flaws. The studies are usually done with children whose adult lover was arrested. There are two problems with this. First of all, if their adult lover was arrested, the child is more likely to have experienced physical abuse or rape, which is not a loving relationship at all. This is because people who abuse or rape children are more likely to get caught than those who have an actual loving relationship with a child. Unfortunately, these people are often seen as the same. Society can’t see the difference between raping a child and having a loving sexual relationship with a child. Second, even if the child did have a loving relationship with the adult, the therapist makes the child believe that it was abuse, not love. By the time the therapist is done with the child, he believes that he was abused.

There have been many studies done on this proving conclusively that for consensual child-adult sexual relationships, there are no harmful effects. Anyone doing modern studies on this is shut down. Any paper published that suggests that pedophilia is anything other than the worst thing in the universe and that children having sexual contact is anything other than utterly life destroying are no longer funded. Such papers are ostracized, the scientists who publish them branded as suspected pedophiles themselves. Nobody will risk any such thing. But, if you go back before the hysteria, there were a number of groundbreaking studies that were done. Everything since then has been anecdotal pseudo-science. Most people have a gut feeling that child love is wrong and disgusting. People need an excuse for why it’s wrong. That’s why they came up with the theory that it causes harm to the child. All studies that resulted in that conclusion were manipulated, taking out any factors that did not meet their expectations. This is just human nature, we first have a gut feeling that something is morally wrong and then we dig and dig for evidence that satisfy those intuitions, modifying the results of experiments and tests or ignoring the data that doesn’t meet our expectations.

How would you feel if a new study were done with plenty of evidence to prove child-adult sexual relationships cause no harm to the child? Would you suddenly think sexual relationships with children are OK? Or would you still think it’s wrong and should be illegal. If such study came out, a lot of people would probably look deeply into the study and try to find flaws or mistakes that disprove the study, if none could be found, they would still disagree. However, if a study came out showing that sexual love with children cause harm to the child, everyone would simply accept that study as true without looking into how valid the study is. This is because the emotion people have about sex with children corresponds to the result of the study, so there is no need to look into it.

Many pedophiles are depressed and commit suicide because they cannot legally have a sexual relationship with a child. Many pedophiles agree to never act on their urges. They think that they are a ticking time bomb and that they will eventually hurt a child, which they do not want to do. What they don’t know is that they aren’t the ones in the wrong, society is the one in the wrong. Society is the one that is making them think they will harm a child when, in fact, they will most likely have a loving relationship with a child. Most pedophiles won’t even have any relationships with children, not because they don’t want to, but because they don’t want to get arrested.

The reason people hate pedophiles so much is not because of the actions they perform with children, but because of the sexual pleasure the adult receives from those actions. If those same actions were performed on a child, but with a non-sexual intent, then society would not see it as wrong, such as going to the pediatrics or getting a circumcision. This is because many people aren’t attracted to children and see it as wrong to be sexually attracted to a child. Imagine that there was a new disease that could only be cured if the doctor injected his penis into the child’s butt. At first, most people would probably see this as a weird cure for a disease, but over time, people will start seeing it as normal.

               Sexual relationships with children cause just as much harm as sexual relationships with adults. The only reason most people see it as wrong is because of their feeling of disgust towards this kind of action. Most people reason with emotion rather than with logic. Disgust is no reason to make something illegal. I am disgusted by gay relationships, but I don’t think gay relationships should be illegal. Therapists need to stop treating the children as if they were harmed by the relationship and instead investigate whether the child was harmed or not. Children are easy to manipulate and if you treat them as if they were harmed, they will believe that they were harmed. Unfortunately, it’s difficult to study this as no one would fund a study that is trying to prove child-adult sexual relationships are OK. No newspaper would publish it because of fear of the public response. Anyone who does is labeled a suspected pedophile. People are probably going to think I’m a pedophile just for writing this.

3 comments:

  1. While I do have some agreements with most (not all) of what you say here, I wouldn't say those pedos who do indulge, in a loving way, are completely blameless in whether harm comes to a child. As there are two main things that they might do to reduce their chance of being arrested.
    (Granted, if they Didn't Have The Fear of going to jail then they might not do them)
    However, they have a great risk of causing harm to a child.

    1) Firstly, lying to the child or distracting the child with the hope that the child doesn't realize what they're up to.
    Examples being trying to mask "inappropriate" touching in with a tickle session (for girls)/wrestling session (for boys). Or another classic, the lollipop/snake-like analogies.
    As you correctly state, the child does know what is going on, they do know where they are being touched or what they are touching. When they grow up to realize they have been lied to (unlike the cases of pediatric exams where they are given the truth) that leaves the possibility for them to feel betrayed or like they have been taken advantage of and develop hatred towards the person/experience they once liked. This is the same as any adult who believes they have been conned by some contract by another person, organization or government.

    2) Asking the child to keep it a secret and potentially worse, the other methods used to get the child to keep it secret (rewards/blackmail/threats/punishments). If the experience was so positive they'd want to tell all their friends/family about it and maybe even show off what they've learned so they are confused by why they have to keep it a secret. It now becomes internalized as something naughty/something to be ashamed of. And then repeated interactions are then not viewed as positively anymore. This can also lead to the bottling up of feelings or acting out as their way to "tell, but not tell". This bottling up of feelings has even further implications.

    When they grow older and learn more about sex, then their confusion "I enjoyed it, why are people saying I shouldn't?" would lead to even more withdrawn behaviour because they don't want to feel ostracised for coming out that they enjoyed it. So they keep quiet and it reflects that there are a lot less cases reported of people who enjoyed it. For those that are required to talk about it, if they are young and say they enjoyed it or say they feel partly responsible, as you've gathered, the conclusion is that the child doesn't know what they are saying and are taught that all the blame goes to the pedo. If they are older however, it is different, while at the older age it is less possible for the therapist to convince them they don't know what they are talking about, they believe that saying they enjoyed it or they experienced no harm would lead to them being judged negatively and would say they didn't enjoy it and would never touch a child out of fear of getting in trouble/being considered a pedophile themselves. Again the results are that stats will be skewed.

    For those who are actually attracted to younger children they now feel the other side of it. They grow up believing that no harm is done to the child by doing something sexual with them because when it happened to them they didn't feel harmed. Some of them who get to be around children probably repeat the process while making the same two mistakes listed above. Others who aren't around children have that longing feeling but are afraid to act on it they turn to CP and the like (non-pornographic pictures of cute girls) to supplement not actually being able to be with a child. All while keeping it bottled up inside knowing the only way they can come out and talk about it with someone is either anonymously through some online forum or to a therapist only under the condition that they agree that sex with a child is wrong or that they would never want to do anything sexual with a child.

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    1. I would say mos pedophiles do not lie to the child, or they may lies at first when they're just getting to know the child as they are engaging in illegal and risky behavior.

      The only reason they ask the child to keep it a secret is because it's illegal and they don't want the child to tell an adult, it's not because the child didn't enjoy it. The child often willingly comes back to the adult's home for more. There are no threats or punishment involved.

      I agree with your third point. There are many teenagers who have said that they were not harmed and that they enjoyed it. There was a recent case about a 14 year old who was "sexually abused" by his teacher. They interviewed him and his parents. He talked about how he enjoyed it. But of course, everyone else sais that he was manipulated into enjoying it, if that makes any sense.

      Also, having sexual relationships with an adult as a child doesn't necessarily mean you will be attracted to children as an adult.

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  2. So this article basically calls all rape victims liars and tries to define their feelings. I know people who were sexually abused as kids. Pedophiles talk as if rape isn't real and denies the fact that pedophiles could do any wrong. This is disgusting and why pedophiles are demonized. Many times kids who want to do sexual things are already abused. Children are not sexual objects they are people! It is so disturbing how "children arent harmed" yet search new articles showing babies dying from sex, little girls getting stds/stis, ptsd and panic attacks, internal injuries and bleeding, permanent damage to sex organs, etc. I've worked at a gynecologist office in a bad area and we get girls who thought they had "conseul sex" with adults but the adults used them, hurt them and even gave them an illness. It is disgusting because it hurts and even kills kids. No empathy for kids just the drive to rape.

    funny how you say society gives people the idea they are raped and you even admit that kids are easily manipulated....

    Yet you don't think a pedophile could manipulate child for selfish reasons (you are clearly bias in thinking all pedophiles are good people) and you don't think you are telling the victim how to feel? For such evil people you got serious double standards. Additionally kids having sex with kids isn't the same as a child and an adult. You child rapist love to whine about that.

    Move to another country that rapes kids if you aren't in the US now. Us parents and communities are protective over our kids. We have the 2nd amendment so watch out. You kind forgets about us protective parents. You seem to hypersexualize kids so much that you forget their personhood and how usually have a family and community around them.

    Finally pedophiles and other child rapist like yourself deserve to be suicidal. Modern society doesn't need child rapists and the best thing they can do is kill themselves Jones town style.

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